Saturday 5 May 2012

Part 2 - Hell-fire

I was pondering / praying about the second point raised --namely hell-fire! I couldn't exactly find the passage she quoted so I am unable to explain the context.
Since I began my spiritual journey many moons ago hell wasn't something that caught my attention unduly. I know there are many Christians obsessed with it but for me life here on earth had just too much going about it. But this doesn't mean that I am ignorant of its existence - Quite the contrary!
To explain I'll have to go a while back to the garden of Eden--you can also refer to my post 'In the beginning' to see where I am coming from.

If paradise was walking with God and if sin led to the banishment from paradise onto the 'terra' that one had to till and toil on, then hell is the separation from God. First let me talk about this 'living hell' before we go to the hell after death.

The created man was fashioned in form from the earth but has within him the very breath of God, i.e. the essence of God. It is this soul or spirit that is the undying person who exists from the moment of the beings creation until the end of time. During the journey through this life every soul longs/ yearns for a special contentment, a special happiness/joy and fulfilment. A joy and contentment and peace that comes from being connected with his/her maker. But man usually doesn't consciously recognize this need for he is engulfed with the noises within and around him. This longing for spiritual contentment is manifested in a myriad different ways for the unenlightened soul---a longing for material things, a longing for love, the need to be recognized, etc etc. When these needs are thwarted or the wrong medicine is given adverse reactions can occur---anger, violence, hatred, depression and in fact any and everything that makes our individual lives here on earth a living hell. But if we are able to connect spiritually with our maker we have begun our individual journey toward living in heaven on earth. So sweet is the peace and contentment that comes from within our very being when we are in a relationship with the Creator God.!

Now lets take a step further into the hell-fire for after death. Even amongst Christians there are many debates about this--on one hand we have Jesus who went down to hell after his death to release the prisoners of hell who had died before hearing his voice--this is documented in the bible. On the other is the hell-fire of eternal damnation. The death of Christ released all men from the bondage of death--i.e. it is now possible for any soul to pass into eternal life should he or she choose to do so. Hell or eternal damnation is nothing but a natural consequence of sin i.e. it is the just wages of sin. In this time of mercy and grace we see Jesus as our saviour and ANY  man , woman or child can freely avail of his mercy and grace, should he or she choose to do so. When we seek Gods mercy with an honest heart our sins our washed away by His precious blood.
But the bible tells us of a time when Jesus will come again as the just judge. On that day our deeds will convict us. Our own deeds, words, actions, omissions and commissions determines whether we are worthy of eternal heaven or eternal separation from the love of God. If whilst on earth we have sold our souls to the devil then to him we shall belong when we pass from this life to the next--UNLESS-- and this is a big UNLESS -- we realise, recognize and react in time.

The love of God is free--his commandments simple--to love him with all your heart soul and mind--this is simple because this is what every soul craves for. His second commandment of loving your neighbour becomes immensely more doable when residing in his love.!

Part 1-The witch


Something recently came up on a forum when we were discussing God and religion. Some were  so put off by religion because of the hatred and violence that some people practice in the name of religion.

The following are excerpts from my response
 "If you look at what Jesus taught his first commandment was to Love your Lord and God with all your strength, mind and heart and His second commandment was to love your neighbour as yourself. He further taught that one shall not judge and also showed by example by what he did with the prostitute--he rescued her from the self -righteous judgers."...
"We have to learn to differentiate the deeds of people from the religion they claim to follow. Christ has not called on anyone to do the things people are doing in His name. What Christ has said is written clearly in the bible--believer or not one could do well to read what he actually said and asked mankind to do. May be startled by the discrepancy!"


There I was feeling very nice in myself  when a lil voice comes along and points out a few things. I'm not sure whether I can C&P her words out of the forum so I'll just recant the gist--She basically recounted the biblical passages in the NT where Jesus says that he has come to bring the sword and not peace, and she also mentioned that Jesus said that unbelievers would be thrown into hell fire.Her worst offender in the Bible was the verse in the OT that goes something like thou shalt not suffer a witch to live and the atrocities committed in its name.

Okay--I am now continuing after a few days gap. Tried going to the bible for a look --just spotted one or two parts of what my friend asked me.

You shall not permit a female sorcerer to live--Exodus 22:v18

The sorcerer is considered as an evil person -http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sorcerer
sorcerer sorceress
noun magician, witch, wizard, magus, warlock, mage (archaic), enchanter, necromancer In voodoo the sorcerer manipulates the victim's symbolic image.


A person who uses the dark arts to wreck havoc and trouble onto others. It is in this context that such a commandment is given to the descendants of Abraham. Much like a murderer or robber in our society such a person was feared and abhorred because of the havoc she could wreck on others.
 It is one rule amongst many others that if we look closely are rules given for their normal day to day life i.e social laws. I would be the first to acknowledge that this law in the later years of christianity has been twisted to serve the vested interests of many power groups--take for instance the story of Joan of Arc.
When Jesus was questioned about the old testament laws such an eye for an eye he replies saying that these were laws given because of the hardness of their hearts and that what actually a man should be doing is to not seek retribution but offer the proverbial other cheek.


to be continued...